Original Documents from Joseph Stifter

Gramps ID S0061
Author Multiple Hungarian Officals
Publication information Translated by Egyeki Gergely and Tom Weichmann

Narrative

The place Joseph Stifter was born was hard to determine for a few reasons.

1. It was hard to read.
2. Once it was read "Üveghutte" didn't describe anything on a map, but I did find referenced to a few Üveghuttes.
3. Once I determined it was Langeck-Üveghutte, it still wasn't on a map, since the place name had changed.

Determining which Üveghutte Joseph was born in:
On the "Bizonyítvány" = Certificate (stone mason) after Üveghuta "a/L" means at Langeck,

On the "Községi bizonyítvány" = Municipal Certificate (kind of Work Permit) in front of Üveghuta "Lang." is short for Langeck.

So the place name was "Langeck-Üveghuta" and I've also seen that it was also called "Hosszúszeghuta" although I've not seen this on any map.

 

Determining where on the map this was:
When these documents were written this town was in the Austrian-Hungarian Empire and the Hungarian place name was used. In 1921, after WWI, the area was divided and this place became part of the new Austrian Bundesland "Burgenland". All of the places in the Burgenland began to use Germanized place names.

Üveghuta in Hungarian means Glass Works
Glashütte in German means Glass Works

 

So, Langeck-Üveghuta, Vas county, Hungary was changed to "Glashütten bei Langeck im Burgenland", in Austria.

Also, providing some verification to this is that Sárvár, Vas County, Hungary where Jozsef Stifter learned his trade and got work certificate is not that far, albeit now is in different country.

Narrative

Translated by Egyeki Gergely <egeri@elte.hu> Feb 2004

Gramps User and Hungarian Translator

 

On Sun, 1 Feb 2004, Tom Weichmann wrote:

> Egyeki,
>
> Thank you very much! I would appreciate it very much if you would try to
> translate these documents!
>
> What is the connection between German people and Hungary? I know that they
> are very near each other, are there ethnic Germans that live in Hungary? Do
> some Hungarians speak German?
>
> Thank you again for your help,
>
> Tom

Tom,

I made the translation of your documents. I'm beginner with the English
language, so mistranslations can be occur. :)
Yes in Hungary live Germenans ethnics, but before the II World War their
was more. After the war in Hungary was the Russian military and German
people was deportated... The Russians was gone only in 1989 from Hungary
and from the East Germany. :(
Some people speak in German, but the German and Hungaran cultur are not
similar! Said also that the hardest language of the word is the
Hungarian language. :)

p.s.: if you have any questions, drop me an e-mail.

Egyeki Gergely

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References

    1. Stifter, Johann [I2132]
    1. Stifter, Joseph [I0175]
    1. Stifter, Joseph [I0175]
    1. Stifter, Joseph [I0175]
    1. Roman Catholic
      1. Stifter, Joseph [I0175]
    2. Stifter, Joseph [I0175]
    1. Birth
      1. Stifter, Joseph [I0175]
    2. Stifter, Joseph [I0175]
    1. Art, Anna [I3145]
    2. Birth
      1. Art, Anna [I3145]
    1. Stifter, Johann [I2132]
  1. Bizonyítvány
    1. Stifter, Joseph [I0175]
    2. Studied to become a stone mason from 10-OCT-1888 to 10-OCT-1891
      1. Stifter, Joseph [I0175]